In my opinion, the decent MPs from the Labour Party and the most ardent leftists from the Greens should come together and form a new party, 'The Social Party' and its motto should be 'What Labour is supposed to be.'
Anti war, focus on housing and the NHS, make being a teacher and nurse attractive again, tax the rich a lot more, higher and fairer benefits with programs to get folks into work.
I think many would! In Denmark they have an excellent social party in power. They do everything you'd expect and more and they're not scared to talk to their voters about things like immigration. They have some fairly strict but fair immigration rules which focus on rooting out any religious extremism.
Denmark is a racist place. And has repeatly been found to take actions discriminatory to immigrants from muslim countries.
Very few people realise that Denmark was one of the original colonial powers of the Caribbean, where on places that are today known as St Thomas, St John, St Croix etc, they ran sugar plantations (the origin of Denmark's current day food processing industry in companies such as DanSukker) there they brutally exploited human slaves that they themselves trafficked in from Africa on Danish Ships.
Danish shipowners actually tried to colonize Africa (they had and shortlived presense at their own fort in what is now Ghana) and Daish shipoweners made fortunes of carrying slaves for other countries from Africa.
But umm yes, sure Danes really have a "fair" stance on immigration. After getting rich on trading slaves and owning plantations where they imported Africans to the Americas. And the nations remains unapologetic about this history. Its a country where up until just a couple of years ago you could find golliwogs available to children in Danish toy stores and the country defended that as "our culture".
Moreover Denmark colonized Greenland and still until this day partially controls it. Look on the map - its nowhere near Denmark. But yes poor Denmark was about to lose their.....colony...to Donald Rump.
The Danish government are not social democracts and their econonmy is NOT social democratic. Its capitlaist just like the rest of Europe.. Maybe the party in power has that name, but they are not any more socialist than Keir Starmer in Britain or Olaf Schølz in Germany or Jonas Gahr Støre next door in Norway.
Reminder: the attacks on Yemen have a strategic purpose: to force an end to the Red Sea blockade imposed by the Houthi *entirely* to disrupt Israel’s genocidal aspirations in Gaza. Saying all this and failing to mention that is a moral failing at a critical moment.
Well yes, this has needed to happen ever since Starmer became leader of the Labour Party and began purging the left. It’s been clear since then that there was no chance of enacting any socialism via Labour. So they’ve needed to leave since 2019.
At every stage their capital would have been greater had they left earlier. But instead they’ve hung around allowing themselves to be chipped away one by one as Corbyn’s momentum dissipates.
There was for a while some kind of “fight for the party” possibility but that’s all fucked now. Now, there is no excuse for remaining in the party. Indeed, the longer they stay, the more their credibility and integrity comes into question, like Sanders and Cortez.
Spot on analysis. The vacuum Starmer and Labour have created will only get stronger and deeper as they flail about trying to appease the right wing of society while the legacy media cheer on Farage. All this is on Starmer and the goons who control him. They so desperately and effectively destroyed Jeremy Corbyn and those in the Party who would have held Starmer’s feet to the fire, that they are now fully exposed as the neo-liberal extremists they are. If there is no challenge to Starmer from within the Party and no leadership from the left of politics to demonstrably offer an alternative, Starmer’s job of holding the door to No10 while what’s left of the Tories push Farage through will be a near certainty. Seyned elections next year will show us all what’s coming.
As the horrors and evil continue to mount up, unabated, I see nothing to convince me that the Western Empire leaders should be permitted to live, much less rule, any longer. They have declared war on all of the rest of us - it’s only the order in which they plan to destroy us that sets us apart from each other. Death to the tyrants, and on to the revolution! What real choices do we have?
Definitely a single criminal mafia (hiding under many names) working against the people for complete domination and possibly for sadistic enjoyment too.
Killing the elderly and the handicapped in order to finance Nazis in the Ukraine, aiding and abetting the Nazi genocide in Gaza and blocking the sun in already sun starved England has NOTHING to do with "maintaining the status quo". All these acts are acts of PURE EVIL.
I found it instructive when, during Covid, Starmer was finally forced into mentioning the party gate incident at PMQs, and Johnson’s response was to stand up, say “Class A drugs, Jimmy Saville,” and sit back down. Starmer responded, “oh I see, well I’m sure you’re right, maybe the police don’t need to be involved after all.”
Everyone in the media found this bizarre but I think Johnson was stating the blackmail material.
Apparently a photo I've seen purports to show Starmer with Saville as a boy. If that is Starmer in the photo (and the similarities are striking) then that would explain a lot…
The last time I watched Pasolini's "Salò, or the 120 Days of Sodom" I couldn't help but think of the children (from good families) who survived. If one does the research (which is extremely disagreeable indeed) about how children are raped, traumatised and abused by the Deep State on an industrial scale then it becomes clear that many are groomed from an early age for top spots. I strongly suspect that Starmer is one of them. His career is EXTREMELY strange indeed and EXTREMELY difficult to explain!
I certainly started getting red flags when he showed up in the Labour Party and immediately went to the top of it. Then I went back and read about his career as dpp.
Do you think the victory against McDonalds was staged to buy him leftist credibility?
Why did he "decide" to become an MP in 2015? And how does a "politician" who first becomes an MP one minute end up PM the next? Getting to the top takes DECADES of drive and ambition, skilful dealing, building of political alliances, networking etc. Is the man charismatic, brilliant, a born "political animal"? No, on the contrary. Does he have a clear "political passion"? An issue which inspires him? No, obviously not. So, what animates his curious ambition, which is clearly non-existent? What is the most notable feature of his career? The fact that he, on account of his friendship with Epstein, was responsible for covering up the Saville scandal.
His minders make sure: nobody gets ANYWHERE close to talk to him. He is guarded EVERY minute of the day! If one regards "The Ghostwriter" as accurate (why else did they arrest Polanski?) then it seems evident that Thatcher worked for the CIA & MI5, which explains a lot (especially how many of those involved in her meteoric rise met sticky ends (e.g. Airey Neave)). BLiar worked, according to one MI5 whistleblower for intelligence and, according to the Czechs, Starmer was/is MI6. The same applies to America (Bush sen. = CIA, Clinton = CIA, Obama = CIA etc. etc.) and France (Macron).
I think it is abundantly clear that Sir Steer Karma works for the British royal family and not for the British people.
He is a Knight and a member of the Privy Council. He is an obedience freak!
The policies of our parliament are dictated by an international crime syndicate aka the Black Nobility which is headed up by King Charles III. The world is a binary system known as the Gap and the Core. If you do not know what I am talking about you really need to read this:
I don't think that name would work tbh. Too many have a knee jerk reaction against whatever it is they think socialism is. Also, I think I remember the woman on the marketing course I did advising against being the anti thing, better to focus on extolling your own virtues so ditch the motto too.
How about "We, the People"? Motto "For a real democracy".
Problem is the media will ridicule/kill the story for any anti establishment alliance, we only have to look at the transformation of Corbyn from life long anti racism campaigner to virulent antisemite to see that. For that reason, I think it needs to be bottom up, not led by existing incumbents. Harder to lie to people that are in relationship with each other. The only thing that will save us is people getting off their screens and going out and talking to friends and neighbours about what us happening. Imo, anyway.
Yeah, you're fantasising. Labour haven't worked for the working class since I was young and I am sixty now.
In my opinion, the decent MPs from the Labour Party and the most ardent leftists from the Greens should come together and form a new party, 'The Social Party' and its motto should be 'What Labour is supposed to be.'
Anti war, focus on housing and the NHS, make being a teacher and nurse attractive again, tax the rich a lot more, higher and fairer benefits with programs to get folks into work.
Whoever does this could genuinely win.
If Corbyn and Zarah Sultana were in such a party I'd actually be interested in voting again.
I think many would! In Denmark they have an excellent social party in power. They do everything you'd expect and more and they're not scared to talk to their voters about things like immigration. They have some fairly strict but fair immigration rules which focus on rooting out any religious extremism.
Not true.
Denmark is a racist place. And has repeatly been found to take actions discriminatory to immigrants from muslim countries.
Very few people realise that Denmark was one of the original colonial powers of the Caribbean, where on places that are today known as St Thomas, St John, St Croix etc, they ran sugar plantations (the origin of Denmark's current day food processing industry in companies such as DanSukker) there they brutally exploited human slaves that they themselves trafficked in from Africa on Danish Ships.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_overseas_colonies
Danish shipowners actually tried to colonize Africa (they had and shortlived presense at their own fort in what is now Ghana) and Daish shipoweners made fortunes of carrying slaves for other countries from Africa.
But umm yes, sure Danes really have a "fair" stance on immigration. After getting rich on trading slaves and owning plantations where they imported Africans to the Americas. And the nations remains unapologetic about this history. Its a country where up until just a couple of years ago you could find golliwogs available to children in Danish toy stores and the country defended that as "our culture".
Moreover Denmark colonized Greenland and still until this day partially controls it. Look on the map - its nowhere near Denmark. But yes poor Denmark was about to lose their.....colony...to Donald Rump.
The Danish government are not social democracts and their econonmy is NOT social democratic. Its capitlaist just like the rest of Europe.. Maybe the party in power has that name, but they are not any more socialist than Keir Starmer in Britain or Olaf Schølz in Germany or Jonas Gahr Støre next door in Norway.
Reminder: the attacks on Yemen have a strategic purpose: to force an end to the Red Sea blockade imposed by the Houthi *entirely* to disrupt Israel’s genocidal aspirations in Gaza. Saying all this and failing to mention that is a moral failing at a critical moment.
Western policy in 2025: when in doubt, bomb the brown people.
Keep knocking them out of the park deaglan!! I don't live over there on that side 'of the pond' but even I can see you hit the nail on the head
Have a good Friday
Thanks, Shaniqua! Doesn't matter where we live, the problems are mostly the same
Have a good weekend!
Well yes, this has needed to happen ever since Starmer became leader of the Labour Party and began purging the left. It’s been clear since then that there was no chance of enacting any socialism via Labour. So they’ve needed to leave since 2019.
At every stage their capital would have been greater had they left earlier. But instead they’ve hung around allowing themselves to be chipped away one by one as Corbyn’s momentum dissipates.
There was for a while some kind of “fight for the party” possibility but that’s all fucked now. Now, there is no excuse for remaining in the party. Indeed, the longer they stay, the more their credibility and integrity comes into question, like Sanders and Cortez.
Spot on analysis. The vacuum Starmer and Labour have created will only get stronger and deeper as they flail about trying to appease the right wing of society while the legacy media cheer on Farage. All this is on Starmer and the goons who control him. They so desperately and effectively destroyed Jeremy Corbyn and those in the Party who would have held Starmer’s feet to the fire, that they are now fully exposed as the neo-liberal extremists they are. If there is no challenge to Starmer from within the Party and no leadership from the left of politics to demonstrably offer an alternative, Starmer’s job of holding the door to No10 while what’s left of the Tories push Farage through will be a near certainty. Seyned elections next year will show us all what’s coming.
Disgusting
The worst part is they love to take the moral ground.
The promise of technology broken. Taken from the people and extracted for profit.
As the horrors and evil continue to mount up, unabated, I see nothing to convince me that the Western Empire leaders should be permitted to live, much less rule, any longer. They have declared war on all of the rest of us - it’s only the order in which they plan to destroy us that sets us apart from each other. Death to the tyrants, and on to the revolution! What real choices do we have?
Definitely a single criminal mafia (hiding under many names) working against the people for complete domination and possibly for sadistic enjoyment too.
Well put, Dad 👍
In case you forgot, there’s an interesting article I found. https://www.noemamag.com/a-king-for-the-people
How many rapinga of children do the Israelis have on film for these monsters to let their own constituents go hungry?
Is starmer still a member of the bildrburg group?
Is Starmer a Deep State Satanist or is he merely a victim of pedophilia? Is he merely a puppet? Who is the puppet master?
He could well just be a genuine neoliberal who thinks maintaining the status quo is a good idea
Killing the elderly and the handicapped in order to finance Nazis in the Ukraine, aiding and abetting the Nazi genocide in Gaza and blocking the sun in already sun starved England has NOTHING to do with "maintaining the status quo". All these acts are acts of PURE EVIL.
Yeah you're right 🤮
I found it instructive when, during Covid, Starmer was finally forced into mentioning the party gate incident at PMQs, and Johnson’s response was to stand up, say “Class A drugs, Jimmy Saville,” and sit back down. Starmer responded, “oh I see, well I’m sure you’re right, maybe the police don’t need to be involved after all.”
Everyone in the media found this bizarre but I think Johnson was stating the blackmail material.
Apparently a photo I've seen purports to show Starmer with Saville as a boy. If that is Starmer in the photo (and the similarities are striking) then that would explain a lot…
I d never heard about that, but if that photo is Starmer then it hints at a lot of very crazy things possibly being true.
The last time I watched Pasolini's "Salò, or the 120 Days of Sodom" I couldn't help but think of the children (from good families) who survived. If one does the research (which is extremely disagreeable indeed) about how children are raped, traumatised and abused by the Deep State on an industrial scale then it becomes clear that many are groomed from an early age for top spots. I strongly suspect that Starmer is one of them. His career is EXTREMELY strange indeed and EXTREMELY difficult to explain!
I certainly started getting red flags when he showed up in the Labour Party and immediately went to the top of it. Then I went back and read about his career as dpp.
Do you think the victory against McDonalds was staged to buy him leftist credibility?
Why did he "decide" to become an MP in 2015? And how does a "politician" who first becomes an MP one minute end up PM the next? Getting to the top takes DECADES of drive and ambition, skilful dealing, building of political alliances, networking etc. Is the man charismatic, brilliant, a born "political animal"? No, on the contrary. Does he have a clear "political passion"? An issue which inspires him? No, obviously not. So, what animates his curious ambition, which is clearly non-existent? What is the most notable feature of his career? The fact that he, on account of his friendship with Epstein, was responsible for covering up the Saville scandal.
His minders make sure: nobody gets ANYWHERE close to talk to him. He is guarded EVERY minute of the day! If one regards "The Ghostwriter" as accurate (why else did they arrest Polanski?) then it seems evident that Thatcher worked for the CIA & MI5, which explains a lot (especially how many of those involved in her meteoric rise met sticky ends (e.g. Airey Neave)). BLiar worked, according to one MI5 whistleblower for intelligence and, according to the Czechs, Starmer was/is MI6. The same applies to America (Bush sen. = CIA, Clinton = CIA, Obama = CIA etc. etc.) and France (Macron).
I think it is abundantly clear that Sir Steer Karma works for the British royal family and not for the British people.
He is a Knight and a member of the Privy Council. He is an obedience freak!
The policies of our parliament are dictated by an international crime syndicate aka the Black Nobility which is headed up by King Charles III. The world is a binary system known as the Gap and the Core. If you do not know what I am talking about you really need to read this:
https://francesleader.substack.com/p/who-rules-the-world
I don't think that name would work tbh. Too many have a knee jerk reaction against whatever it is they think socialism is. Also, I think I remember the woman on the marketing course I did advising against being the anti thing, better to focus on extolling your own virtues so ditch the motto too.
How about "We, the People"? Motto "For a real democracy".
Problem is the media will ridicule/kill the story for any anti establishment alliance, we only have to look at the transformation of Corbyn from life long anti racism campaigner to virulent antisemite to see that. For that reason, I think it needs to be bottom up, not led by existing incumbents. Harder to lie to people that are in relationship with each other. The only thing that will save us is people getting off their screens and going out and talking to friends and neighbours about what us happening. Imo, anyway.