Hi Declan, You are completely right, the Roma are treated appallingly badly and it's pretty universal. (I've given up on left/right because really, these days, what does it even mean? I was a lefty all my life and suddenly I'm far right because I didn't get jabbed and don't think compulsory injections is a good idea. )
I would suggest that the reason for the universal loathing is buried deep in most people's psyche and it boils down to envy. I'm an anarchist and believe we all are, underneath the conditioning. We are clawless, fangless predators, that means cooperation. We lived most of our history in small groups, working autonomously together for the groups survival. Nomads still living that way generally cause resentment in those settled, two different ways of being in collision. Especially given how few of us like our jobs, sometimes even our lives. How many people would go to work if it wasn't for money? When you remove the ability for people to fend for themselves, they become trapped in the system.
How many people in the UK would just like to have a piece of land and be left alone? Millions. It's illegal, obvs. We normalise and normalise until at this point, questioning the narrative outs you to your peers as a nut job conspiracy theorist. Lol. But this current version of humanity is just a blip and so, deep down, is the total normal urge to be a bit more hunter gatherer in life, and quite a lot less "alarm clock and business suits".
Ironically, those lefties would be all over a campaign for the rights of the Yanomomi or Andaman Islanders, the Roma, on the other hand, don't get a look in.
Travelling is well nigh impossible, settling also. I personally think that the question ought to be, how do we recognise the rights of the Roma in a modern context?
The little I know of their culture, most don't want to assimilate, and why should they? I mean, the land was stolen from "we the people" with enclosure and violence, and here we are, sticking it to the people saying fuck you instead of joining them in the fuck you camp.
Time to think outside the box. We are watching genocide live on air, while struggling to keep our heads above water. Don't know about Ireland but the UK is something like the sixth largest economy, there's no excuse for over two thousand food banks. Didn't exist twenty years ago. I understand that most people are stuck in " in the real world" thinking but really, at this point, how much worse could change be?
If only we could get people to understand that they need to stop bothering with silly nonsense like elections and focus attention on coming up with some different ways of living on earth. Instead people are losing their shit over which AIPAC candidate was elected.
Ps. There is no "real world", it's your conditioning kicking in as you try to step past the Overton window.
Black prison population can clearly not uniquely be attributed to /racial IQ/ disparities. Black >White(not Jewish somewhere below or on par with Whites)>Asian.
Gypsy is the traditional word for someone who lived a nomadic lifestyle in Europe, It was used to describe the Roma people and also Irish travellers but the Roma have rejected the term and they find it a pejorative so I avoid using it these days even though I've used it a lot. Same for its translations: gitano, Zigeuner etc.
I quit reading at holocaust. I’ve done extensive research and found it to be one of the greatest psychological operations and propaganda exercises of all time. Only 200-300K died in work camps as a result of typhus and starvation at the end of the war as the axis powers retreated and supply lines were cut off. There was no gassing of jews or any other person. There were swimming pools, nursery schools, theater stages, post offices, etc. in these labor camps. One big fat lie so the jew world order can continue as they cry perpetual victim and continue milking the money train.
They are gypsies though.... they lead an itinerant lifestyle and trace their history to SE Asia.... Romani Gypsy. .. the term is associated with criminality and a host of other things. From my experience these are earned as the level of theft and violence (especially against women and children) is massive
I spent quite a lot of time interacting with them and chatting with them and never had any problems. I deliberately went out of my way to learn more about their lives and they're just kind of a crazy people that lives on the fringe of society. I know fine well that they are disproportionately involved in crime, as you would see if you had read the article but my opinion doesn't really matter and is not the main point. The point is to highlight the hypocrisy between the blatant racism to that community versus other communities which are also disproportionately involved in crime.
If we would talk about black people in the same way, it would rightfully be a hate crime taken seriously.
Also continuing to talk about these people in the way that you do is not going to solve the problem or make them feel inclined to join 'the settled world'
Well we can start off by not calling them gypsies, which is a pejorative term rejected by all Roma representative groups. Tackling the deep seated racism is one of the first steps that we have to take because they will never feel like integrating into a society that hates them. It's a vicious circle.
It's not easy to integrate into a society and get jobs/housing in countries that discriminate against you!
Hi Declan, You are completely right, the Roma are treated appallingly badly and it's pretty universal. (I've given up on left/right because really, these days, what does it even mean? I was a lefty all my life and suddenly I'm far right because I didn't get jabbed and don't think compulsory injections is a good idea. )
I would suggest that the reason for the universal loathing is buried deep in most people's psyche and it boils down to envy. I'm an anarchist and believe we all are, underneath the conditioning. We are clawless, fangless predators, that means cooperation. We lived most of our history in small groups, working autonomously together for the groups survival. Nomads still living that way generally cause resentment in those settled, two different ways of being in collision. Especially given how few of us like our jobs, sometimes even our lives. How many people would go to work if it wasn't for money? When you remove the ability for people to fend for themselves, they become trapped in the system.
How many people in the UK would just like to have a piece of land and be left alone? Millions. It's illegal, obvs. We normalise and normalise until at this point, questioning the narrative outs you to your peers as a nut job conspiracy theorist. Lol. But this current version of humanity is just a blip and so, deep down, is the total normal urge to be a bit more hunter gatherer in life, and quite a lot less "alarm clock and business suits".
Ironically, those lefties would be all over a campaign for the rights of the Yanomomi or Andaman Islanders, the Roma, on the other hand, don't get a look in.
Travelling is well nigh impossible, settling also. I personally think that the question ought to be, how do we recognise the rights of the Roma in a modern context?
The little I know of their culture, most don't want to assimilate, and why should they? I mean, the land was stolen from "we the people" with enclosure and violence, and here we are, sticking it to the people saying fuck you instead of joining them in the fuck you camp.
Time to think outside the box. We are watching genocide live on air, while struggling to keep our heads above water. Don't know about Ireland but the UK is something like the sixth largest economy, there's no excuse for over two thousand food banks. Didn't exist twenty years ago. I understand that most people are stuck in " in the real world" thinking but really, at this point, how much worse could change be?
If only we could get people to understand that they need to stop bothering with silly nonsense like elections and focus attention on coming up with some different ways of living on earth. Instead people are losing their shit over which AIPAC candidate was elected.
Ps. There is no "real world", it's your conditioning kicking in as you try to step past the Overton window.
Thank you Declan!
You're very welcome. Thanks for reading!
People who are racist to Roma and sinti will get cursed
Black prison population can clearly not uniquely be attributed to /racial IQ/ disparities. Black >White(not Jewish somewhere below or on par with Whites)>Asian.
These are well established facts.
Maybe Roma are similar.
Well it's pretty clear to me that "the west" only feels bad about a certain aspect of the holocaust at all.
The "chosen people" and maybe the homosexuals if they really want to virtue signal (I hate using that term, but it applies here nontheless).
The Roma? The Slavs? Who cares, according to these people. The arbiters of "western morality" mind you.
I respect your opinion.
I’m sorry to be ignorant but does Roma mean Gypsy .. 🤷♀️ .. my sister always told me our family were Gypsy
Gypsy is the traditional word for someone who lived a nomadic lifestyle in Europe, It was used to describe the Roma people and also Irish travellers but the Roma have rejected the term and they find it a pejorative so I avoid using it these days even though I've used it a lot. Same for its translations: gitano, Zigeuner etc.
I quit reading at holocaust. I’ve done extensive research and found it to be one of the greatest psychological operations and propaganda exercises of all time. Only 200-300K died in work camps as a result of typhus and starvation at the end of the war as the axis powers retreated and supply lines were cut off. There was no gassing of jews or any other person. There were swimming pools, nursery schools, theater stages, post offices, etc. in these labor camps. One big fat lie so the jew world order can continue as they cry perpetual victim and continue milking the money train.
They are gypsies though.... they lead an itinerant lifestyle and trace their history to SE Asia.... Romani Gypsy. .. the term is associated with criminality and a host of other things. From my experience these are earned as the level of theft and violence (especially against women and children) is massive
Ok, so have you dealt much with the gyspy communities? In what capacity and how did you find dealing with them?
I spent quite a lot of time interacting with them and chatting with them and never had any problems. I deliberately went out of my way to learn more about their lives and they're just kind of a crazy people that lives on the fringe of society. I know fine well that they are disproportionately involved in crime, as you would see if you had read the article but my opinion doesn't really matter and is not the main point. The point is to highlight the hypocrisy between the blatant racism to that community versus other communities which are also disproportionately involved in crime.
If we would talk about black people in the same way, it would rightfully be a hate crime taken seriously.
Also continuing to talk about these people in the way that you do is not going to solve the problem or make them feel inclined to join 'the settled world'
How do we solve the Roma gypsy problem?
Well we can start off by not calling them gypsies, which is a pejorative term rejected by all Roma representative groups. Tackling the deep seated racism is one of the first steps that we have to take because they will never feel like integrating into a society that hates them. It's a vicious circle.
It's not easy to integrate into a society and get jobs/housing in countries that discriminate against you!
Maybe if they didn't steal so much
how do we solve the "israel first" problem? Seems to me that's a bigger issue.
You have obviously never dealt with them or their offshoots in Ireland or the UK....
Brother, I am an Irishman who grew up in Central/Eastern Europe!
Oh boy. Kinda proving Declan's point, aren't ya?
What I wanted to say as well!
it's beyond parody with these people.