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Nikiyaki's avatar

It's getting to the point even people in the West are calling for their own downfall. Did any Romans ever celebrate the sacking of Rome? The humiliations of Constantinople? I guess the monks moralised about it in the aftermath. Ironically, it feels like being a biblical prophet, yelling at deaf people that God is going to obliterate their evil from the face of the earth. We should be so lucky.

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Shaniqua DuBois's avatar

We've entered such a weird time. We cannot live in a world where it takes two years to do anything about a genocide. We don't have time. By the time they do anything, the genocide is complete. I feel crazy, this can't be real

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The Annihilated Truth's avatar

Not a weird time at all. This is what always happens when the victims are not white.

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Majesterial Joy's avatar

Waiting until it's over is the point.

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Ben_H's avatar

I can only repeat what i said before, Israel has never actually been a standalone thing. For the casual observer Israel is an independent state with its own management. I get this. It is perfectly understandable that we would think like that. All the information we have channels us to this sort of thinking. For all practical purposes Israel is a state. BUT. There is a but guys. There is definitely a big but. The level of commitment the West has for Israel is the same level of commitment UK gov't has for the monarchy (or even more). Now this is not something that is very easy to explain but this is what we have.

This means the Israel we want to think about from my beginning above is not correct. We have a contradiction here. This contradiction should be our starting point. But every time people go straight to the beginning and never coming out of the loop.

This is why I felt the need to think differently about Israel.

My understanding is that Israel exists in a formal (legal) manner only. This existence (as a Jewish State) is there (as a narrative) to give this violent apparatus the cover it needs and international legitimacy. Israel is therefore, first and foremost, a tool for imperial mafia. All under the cover of a Jewish State.

The Jews who are allowed to colonise, settle, occupy, are giving Israel the Jewish colours this scam requires. Those Zionists believe in what they are doing but unbeknown to them they are useful idiots in a bigger game, an imperial game. The German Chancellor actually admitted it few days ago when he said Israel does “our dirty work”. Well, this dirty work is not only in wars but in all manner of activities they can’t easily do in Europe and the US.

To some extent this conclusion could have been reached by Israelis who left Israel (like me) who have realised long ago (in my case 30 years ago) that Israel can’t be a normal state. What Israelis are required to go through is not normal. Something external must be involved. Once I left Israel and saw how important it is to the UK/US it just makes you think… So the whole thing must be a fraud. They have allowed a Jewish state to emerge but this “state” is heavily involved in very “unstately” things, and yet it is legally speaking, a state.

It is not too complicated to think about it as long as we are willing to abandon the standard ideas we have about this arrangement. If you don’t buy it ask me.

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Martin's avatar

These fucking useless eurocrats should be parachuted into Gaza so they can decide first hand if it’s genocide or not.

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Loto.N's avatar

Let's not forget the Press,

those human beings with that big 'PRESS' writing on their chest and back, visible from afar used to identify them as not threatening and not to be targeted in a battle field, it didn't matter if they were Palestinian or foreign Press: Israel cowardly culled them all at every single chance to get rid of witnesses.

The true reporters of this genocide, may they rest in peace and let's hope at least they'll have a late justice

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Kojo's avatar

Israel is a shadow member of the European colonial war army

https://www.ibtimes.co.in/israel-opens-new-office-nato-headquarters-brussels-712989

https://www.defensenews.com/pentagon/2016/05/04/nato-accepts-israel-4-other-nations-as-headquarter-liaisons/

And that colonial army has long been at work bloodying its hands by murdering Asian muslims for Israeli zionist ambitions:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2003/9/22/us-plans-to-attack-seven-muslim-states

https://archive.org/details/WesleyClarkSevenCountriesInFiveYears

https://www.brown.edu/news/2021-09-01/costsofwar

So its no surprise that European mis-leaders sometimes tell the truth - that Israel's war criminal mission is the mission of Europe and Israel is doing the "dirty work" of the European-originated colonial alliance:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/international-relations/israel-claims-killing-of-iranian-revolutionary-guard-general/ar-AA1GQKpA

https://english.alarabiya.net/News/middle-east/2025/06/17/israel-is-doing-dirty-work-for-all-of-us-in-iran-german-chancellor-says

https://www.straitstimes.com/world/united-states/trump-discloses-flattering-private-message-from-nato-chief-mark-rutte

And they are now all assembled at the Hague, where surely there are Israeli war criminals safely attending, who should have been arrested and taken to the ICJ immediately:

https://www.thehagueinternationalcentre.nl/news/2025-04/nato-summit-2025-the-hague

They might as well dispense with the charade of "sanctions" then.

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Batman's avatar

HYPOCRITES…FUCK YOU SATANIC PEOPLE. RACIST PEOPLE. SHIT PEOPLE. WAIT ANOTHER 21 MONTHS PIECES OF SHIT. DON’T PRETEND AND THINK PEOPLE ARE STUPID. E.U IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PALESTINIAN HOLOCAUST. WAIT TIL THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE IS COMPLETELY EXTERMINATED AND THEN ACT. FROM THE DEPTH OF MY HEART…FUCK YOU SCUM OF THE EARTH. YOU ARE ALL WAR CRIMINALS. NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOU AND POL POT, STALIN, HITLER, SADDAM HUSSEIN OR ANY OTHER MASS MURDERER. IF ANYTHING YOU ARE WORSE

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Nuance&context's avatar

Why do you lie Deaglan? From thousands of miles away in Ireland you ingest Hamas propaganda and disseminate it to equally unhinged anti israel fanatics.

You dont ever talk about Oct 7 except to deny it. You dont talk about Israeli hostages or Hamas stealing aid or the thousands of rockets sent to murder Israelis from churches and mosques and hospitals where Hamas terrorists have their military HQ.

What is an Irishman doing obsessing and spreading lies about 'Israel-Gaza? Why not Sudan where there's a real genocides taking place? Doesn't pay as well?

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