Declan O'Mulrooney is intentionally misleading his readers. Anyone who studied the 2014 matter can easily detect it. His misinformation ranges from the spelling (must be “Odesa” not the Russian “Odessa”) to the skipping of the facts and determinations made by the European Court.
First of, Declan for any reason does not give the link to the Judgment of the Court itself, which establish a lot more facts surrounding the blaze in Odesa on the days before and after the blaze (read here: https://hudoc.echr.coe.int/eng#{%22itemid%22:[%22001-242505%22]} The Court ruled that Ukrainian authorities failed to prevent violence, stop it in time, or ensure effective rescue operations. The investigation into the events was deemed ineffective, suffering from delays and lack of independence. The ruling highlighted the broader context of Russia's involvement in Crimea and eastern Ukraine.
More important is that Declan had qualified it as “Odessa Massacre” for no reason. Massacre an indiscriminate intentional slaughter of many people. The ECHR did not determine that the fire in the Odesa Trade Union Building on 2 May 2014 was set with the deliberate intention to massacre or systematically kill the victims. Instead, the Court focused on Odesian officials and officers’ failure to prevent and stop the violence, ensure timely rescue measures, and conduct an effective investigation into the events.
The judgment notes that both pro-Maidan and anti-Maidan activists used Molotov cocktails, with fires originating inside and outside the building. The Ukrainian authorities’ failure to intervene effectively contributed to the fatalities, but the Court did not establish a finding of premeditated mass murder.
Specific facts, Declan forgets to mention: that most of the law enforcement and other agencies in Odesa responsible for making sure no such trouble happened were separatists and worked for Moscow. They mostly fled to Russia already in May 2014.
Demyan was not an “enforcer”, Declan just exacerbated it. Demyan was just an activist, just one of patriots of Ukraine. See an interview with Demyan in Odesa to the local newspaper Dumskaya (they work in Russian): https://youtu.be/KnvE7FEQH24?si=hx45YSLAkXh3AfST. I know that anyone who in Ukraine, in Belarus, in Moldova, in the Baltics calls himself a Patriot, Moscow and Kremlin propaganda outlets call them “Nazis”).
Declan forgets to mention such facts as “at 4.10 p.m. the first victim, Mr. Ivanov [Russian surname], a pro-unity (pro-Ukraine) activist, sustained a firearm injury to the abdomen. He was taken to hospital by an ambulance but died during surgery”, or that The Court noted that many of those who took refuge in the Trade Union Building were anti-Maidan (pro-Russian) activists. It also recognised that some of the pro-Unity protesters attempted to help those trapped inside, while others engaged in violence.
Declan has said that out of the 48 people who died “mostly were Ukrainians who leaned towards Russia”, but he intentionally forgot to mention that:
- 42 individuals perishing in the Trade Unions House fire and six others killed earlier that day during clashes in Hretska Square.
- many of the victims were Ukrainian patriots.
- Nor has he said that many of those who were involved in causing the blaze were Russian citizens or those who came from the Russia-occupied parts of Moldova (from Transnistria).
People really need to do their own research or at least read the Court’s decision.
Dumskaya, local newspaper of Odesa, speaks Russian, they actually did very good investigation about the 2-May invents, and reported all about it (many hundreds of A4 pages) already in 2014-2015. Read them at least.
I appreciate your comment and at some point I would like to take some time to dive into it a little bit more but how does any of that justify the way that he treated his fellow Ukrainians? Does that justify him dragging an unwilling man to go to war? Filming him tying that man to a tree and abusing him?
You have focused on 2014 which I'll admit is open to debate - which is why I left it open.
How does that change the fact that he is (was) a right-wing Banderite nationalist thug?
What about his actions in the past three years? The many videos of him abusing men on the streets and dragging them to be conscripted which is neither his job or his right. Beating them, there's plenty of evidence - I've included it.
I am not a Russian 'bot' I just see this man for what he is. I also am just one person so maybe you have different or more information than I do and that fine, but don't come into my publication trying to shut down discussion just because you don't like what you see.
As I said, I will gladly and enthusiastically discuss anything with you in good faith but not if you come in here throwing around accusations of 'Russian bot' like a 20 year old on Reddit who wants to shut down dissenting opinion.
I will go back and read the European Court of Human Rights verdict in full and I will include the link in my article.
But in my opinion it does not change the fact that this man deserved what he got. If you went to the Odessa Telegram groups then everybody was celebrating because they hated him.
I don't block you in any way, I can't. So when you say, "trying to shut down the discussion," you just make a lie. You post, people read or don't what you write. My comments don't have any impact on that process at all.
I and my fellow Russians are shut down from most free media because of the total censorship in Russia. We must hide that we buy (spend money) and install VPN to have access to youtube, FaceBook, even to Twitter -- that is a real shutdown, not my critique of your false narratives about the 2 May events, which are to a 'big surprise" mostly coherent with what is generated and spread from the Kremlin troll farms.
Besides those narratives and your misstatement of 2 May facts, you use the key words that associate you with the Moscow propaganda: "Banderite", "Odessa Massacre", "Odessa", "Nationalist". Most important is that your writing shows clearly that you have no clue about:
- the city of Odesa, which is a cultural and historical phenomenon of Eastern Europe and the Black Sea;
- the 2 May 2014 events, and just repeat the false narratives and lies generated in Moscow.
Had you known something about Odesa, if you just lived there on your own, on your own funding, just for one year, you would never even attempt to spread those narratives you spread not about Ukraine, Odesa, and the Russian war in general.
Overall, your article is titled "Ukrainian nationalist enforcer, Demyan Ganul, shot dead in the street days after damning ECHR ruling on Odessa Massacre." Thus you've connected the ECHR's judgement and his assassination, making it sound like he was killed for what you called falsely claimed "Odessa Massacre".
Now for some reason you are dragging things that are not relevant to the 2 May events and the Court's ruling in to your article and the discussion of it. Demyan may be an awful man, he might have been a criminal, etc. -- none of it is relevant to the 2 May events and the court ruling.
I know why you have done it, it's too explicit, -- it is related to his assassination and the Court's ruling, but that is something to comment separately. Here we just must state the facts:
- He was not a "enforcer", He was just an ordinary activist with good communication skills in 2014. He was just one of many.
- He is not a nationalist (you surely wanted to write "Nazi"). He is just a patriot of Ukraine and of Odesa. Proud Boys and Oath Keepers are nationalists. Compared to them, or to AfD or to Nigel Farage, he was a leftist.
- He is not "Banderite nationalist" - it's just ridiculous, like calling American patriots with George Washington pictures "Washingtonites".
- It's not "Odessa Massacre", it is most likely negligence, read the Dumskaya's investigation and the court judgement.
On May 2, 2014, clashes erupted in Odessa between Ukrainian nationalists, who supported the armed coup in Kiev that had occurred several weeks before, and those who opposed it. The pro-Maidan activists attacked a tent where local residents were gathering signatures for a referendum on the federalization of Ukraine and recognition of Russian as a state language.
Outnumbered by the far-right radicals, the anti-coup activists took refuge inside the city’s trade union building. However, the nationalists surrounded the building, lobbed Molotov cocktails at it and eventually set it on fire, resulting in 48 deaths and over 200 people injured.
Judgment Vyacheslavova and Others v. Ukraine - State negligence in clashes between Maidan supporters and opponents in Odesa in May 2014
I gather (from Military Summary) that he was killed by the father of a young man whom he had beaten up and forcibly recruited to the army. The father - wounded 13 times in the service of Ukraine, thus no lover of Russia - had been promised that his family would be unmolested in return for his service. Presumably Ganul did not know of that arrangement, but he still acted unconscionably. Quite apart from his role in the Odessa massacre.
Declan is intentionally misleading readers in his post. Anyone who studied the matter can see it. It ranges from the spelling (it should be “Odesa” not the Russian spelling “Odessa”) to the skipping of the facts and determinations made by the Court.
Declan for any reason does not give the link to the Judgment of the Court, which establish a lot more facts surrounding the blaze in Odesa on the days before and after the blaze (read here: https://hudoc.echr.coe.int/eng#{%22itemid%22:[%22001-242505%22]} The Court ruled that Ukrainian authorities failed to prevent violence, stop it in time, or ensure effective rescue operations. The investigation into the events was deemed ineffective, suffering from delays and lack of independence. The ruling highlighted the broader context of Russia's involvement in Crimea and eastern Ukraine.
Declan had qualified it “Odessa Massacre” for no reason. Massacre an indiscriminate intentional slaughter of many people. The ECHR did not determine that the fire in the Odesa Trade Union Building on 2 May 2014 was set with the deliberate intention to massacre or systematically kill the victims. Instead, the Court focused on Odesian officials and officers’ failure to prevent and stop the violence, ensure timely rescue measures, and conduct an effective investigation into the events.
The judgment notes that both pro-Maidan and anti-Maidan activists used Molotov cocktails, with fires originating inside and outside the building. The Ukrainian authorities’ failure to intervene effectively contributed to the fatalities, but the Court did not establish a finding of premeditated mass murder.
Declan forgets to mention that most of the Ukrainian law enforcement and other agencies in Odesa responsible for making sure no such trouble happen, worked for Moscow and mostly fled to Russia already in May 2014.
Demyan was not an “enforcer”, he was just an activist, just one of patriots of Ukraine (I know that anyone who in Ukraine, in Belarus, in Moldova, in the Baltics calls himself a Patriot, Moscow and Kremlin propaganda outlets call them “Nazis”).
Declan forgets to mention such facts as “at 4.10 p.m. the first victim, Mr. Ivanov [Russian surname], a pro-unity (pro-Ukraine) activist, sustained a firearm injury to the abdomen. He was taken to hospital by an ambulance but died during surgery”, or that The Court noted that many of those who took refuge in the Trade Union Building were anti-Maidan (pro-Russian) activists. It also recognised that some of the pro-Unity protesters attempted to help those trapped inside, while others engaged in violence.
Declan has said that out of the 48 people who died “mostly were Ukrainians who leaned towards Russia”, but he intentionally forgot to mention that:
- 42 individuals perishing in the Trade Unions House fire and six others killed earlier that day during clashes in Hretska Square.
- many of the victims were Ukrainian patriots.
- Nor has he said that many of those who were involved in causing the blaze were Russian citizens or those who came from the Russia-occupied parts of Moldova (from Transnistria).
People really need to do their own research or at least read the Court’s decision.
Dumskaya speaks Russian, they actually did very good investigation about the 2-May invents, and reported all about it (many hundreds of A4 pages) already in 2014-2015.
Looks like he had a very predictable end. Such a violent country it must be so awful for the average person living there. Just trying to lead a normal life.
John, are you even paid from taxes we pay in Russia for eating such nonsense and spreading lies? You have never been to either Ukraine, nor Russia but making some conclusions from reading someone who is professionally making and spreading lies and fakes.
Declan is intentionally misleading the readers in his post. Anyone who studied the matter knows it. It ranges from the spelling (it should be “Odesa” not the Russian spelling “Odessa”) to the skipping of the facts and determinations made by the Court.
Declan for any does not give the link to the Judgment of the Court, which establish a lot more facts surrounding the blaze in Odesa on the days before and after the blaze (read here: https://hudoc.echr.coe.int/eng#{%22itemid%22:[%22001-242505%22]} The Court ruled that Ukrainian authorities failed to prevent violence, stop it in time, or ensure effective rescue operations. The investigation into the events was deemed ineffective, suffering from delays and lack of independence. The ruling highlighted the broader context of Russia's involvement in Crimea and eastern Ukraine.
Declan had qualified it “Odessa Massacre” for no reason. Massacre an indiscriminate intentional slaughter of many people. The ECHR did not determine that the fire in the Odesa Trade Union Building on 2 May 2014 was set with the deliberate intention to massacre or systematically kill the victims. Instead, the Court focused on Odesian officials and officers’ failure to prevent and stop the violence, ensure timely rescue measures, and conduct an effective investigation into the events.
The judgment notes that both pro-Maidan and anti-Maidan activists used Molotov cocktails, with fires originating inside and outside the building. The Ukrainian authorities’ failure to intervene effectively contributed to the fatalities, but the Court did not establish a finding of premeditated mass murder.
Declan forgets to mention that most of the Ukrainian law enforcement and other agencies in Odesa responsible for making sure no such trouble happen, worked for Moscow and mostly fled to Russia already in May 2014.
Demyan was not an “enforcer”, he was just an activist, just one of patriots of Ukraine (I know that anyone who in Ukraine, in Belarus, in Moldova, in the Baltics calls himself a Patriot, Moscow and Kremlin propaganda outlets call them “Nazis”).
Declan forgets to mention such facts as “at 4.10 p.m. the first victim, Mr. Ivanov [Russian surname], a pro-unity (pro-Ukraine) activist, sustained a firearm injury to the abdomen. He was taken to hospital by an ambulance but died during surgery”, or that The Court noted that many of those who took refuge in the Trade Union Building were anti-Maidan (pro-Russian) activists. It also recognised that some of the pro-Unity protesters attempted to help those trapped inside, while others engaged in violence.
Declan has said that out of the 48 people who died “mostly were Ukrainians who leaned towards Russia”. But he has not said how many of those “mostly”. that several of the victims were Ukrainian patriots. Nor has he said that many of those who were involved in causing the blaze were Russian citizens or those who came from the Russia-occupied parts of Moldova (from Transnistria).
People really need to do their own research or at least read the Court’s decision.
Dumskaya, local newspaper of Odesa, speaks Russian, they actually did very good investigation about the 2-May invents, and reported all about it (many hundreds of A4 pages) already in 2014-2015. Read them at least.
Declan is intentionally misleading the readers in his post. Anyone who studied the matter knows it. It ranges from the spelling (it should be “Odesa” not the Russian spelling “Odessa”) to the skipping of the facts and determinations made by the Court.
Declan for any does not give the link to the Judgment of the Court, which establish a lot more facts surrounding the blaze in Odesa on the days before and after the blaze (read here: https://hudoc.echr.coe.int/eng#{%22itemid%22:[%22001-242505%22]} The Court ruled that Ukrainian authorities failed to prevent violence, stop it in time, or ensure effective rescue operations. The investigation into the events was deemed ineffective, suffering from delays and lack of independence. The ruling highlighted the broader context of Russia's involvement in Crimea and eastern Ukraine.
Declan had qualified it “Odessa Massacre” for no reason. Massacre an indiscriminate intentional slaughter of many people. The ECHR did not determine that the fire in the Odesa Trade Union Building on 2 May 2014 was set with the deliberate intention to massacre or systematically kill the victims. Instead, the Court focused on Odesian officials and officers’ failure to prevent and stop the violence, ensure timely rescue measures, and conduct an effective investigation into the events.
The judgment notes that both pro-Maidan and anti-Maidan activists used Molotov cocktails, with fires originating inside and outside the building. The Ukrainian authorities’ failure to intervene effectively contributed to the fatalities, but the Court did not establish a finding of premeditated mass murder.
Declan forgets to mention that most of the Ukrainian law enforcement and other agencies in Odesa responsible for making sure no such trouble happen, worked for Moscow and mostly fled to Russia already in May 2014.
Demyan was not an “enforcer”, he was just an activist, just one of patriots of Ukraine (I know that anyone who in Ukraine, in Belarus, in Moldova, in the Baltics calls himself a Patriot, Moscow and Kremlin propaganda outlets call them “Nazis”).
Declan forgets to mention such facts as “at 4.10 p.m. the first victim, Mr. Ivanov [Russian surname], a pro-unity (pro-Ukraine) activist, sustained a firearm injury to the abdomen. He was taken to hospital by an ambulance but died during surgery”, or that The Court noted that many of those who took refuge in the Trade Union Building were anti-Maidan (pro-Russian) activists. It also recognised that some of the pro-Unity protesters attempted to help those trapped inside, while others engaged in violence.
Declan has said that out of the 48 people who died “mostly were Ukrainians who leaned towards Russia”, but he intentionally forgot to mention that:
- 42 individuals perishing in the Trade Unions House fire and six others killed earlier that day during clashes in Hretska Square.
- many of the victims were Ukrainian patriots.
- Nor has he said that many of those who were involved in causing the blaze were Russian citizens or those who came from the Russia-occupied parts of Moldova (from Transnistria).
People really need to do their own research or at least read the Court’s decision.
Dumskaya speaks Russian, they actually did very good investigation about the 2-May invents, and reported all about it (many hundreds of A4 pages) already in 2014-2015.
Declan O'Mulrooney is intentionally misleading his readers. Anyone who studied the 2014 matter can easily detect it. His misinformation ranges from the spelling (must be “Odesa” not the Russian “Odessa”) to the skipping of the facts and determinations made by the European Court.
First of, Declan for any reason does not give the link to the Judgment of the Court itself, which establish a lot more facts surrounding the blaze in Odesa on the days before and after the blaze (read here: https://hudoc.echr.coe.int/eng#{%22itemid%22:[%22001-242505%22]} The Court ruled that Ukrainian authorities failed to prevent violence, stop it in time, or ensure effective rescue operations. The investigation into the events was deemed ineffective, suffering from delays and lack of independence. The ruling highlighted the broader context of Russia's involvement in Crimea and eastern Ukraine.
More important is that Declan had qualified it as “Odessa Massacre” for no reason. Massacre an indiscriminate intentional slaughter of many people. The ECHR did not determine that the fire in the Odesa Trade Union Building on 2 May 2014 was set with the deliberate intention to massacre or systematically kill the victims. Instead, the Court focused on Odesian officials and officers’ failure to prevent and stop the violence, ensure timely rescue measures, and conduct an effective investigation into the events.
The judgment notes that both pro-Maidan and anti-Maidan activists used Molotov cocktails, with fires originating inside and outside the building. The Ukrainian authorities’ failure to intervene effectively contributed to the fatalities, but the Court did not establish a finding of premeditated mass murder.
Specific facts, Declan forgets to mention: that most of the law enforcement and other agencies in Odesa responsible for making sure no such trouble happened were separatists and worked for Moscow. They mostly fled to Russia already in May 2014.
Demyan was not an “enforcer”, Declan just exacerbated it. Demyan was just an activist, just one of patriots of Ukraine. See an interview with Demyan in Odesa to the local newspaper Dumskaya (they work in Russian): https://youtu.be/KnvE7FEQH24?si=hx45YSLAkXh3AfST. I know that anyone who in Ukraine, in Belarus, in Moldova, in the Baltics calls himself a Patriot, Moscow and Kremlin propaganda outlets call them “Nazis”).
Declan forgets to mention such facts as “at 4.10 p.m. the first victim, Mr. Ivanov [Russian surname], a pro-unity (pro-Ukraine) activist, sustained a firearm injury to the abdomen. He was taken to hospital by an ambulance but died during surgery”, or that The Court noted that many of those who took refuge in the Trade Union Building were anti-Maidan (pro-Russian) activists. It also recognised that some of the pro-Unity protesters attempted to help those trapped inside, while others engaged in violence.
Declan has said that out of the 48 people who died “mostly were Ukrainians who leaned towards Russia”, but he intentionally forgot to mention that:
- 42 individuals perishing in the Trade Unions House fire and six others killed earlier that day during clashes in Hretska Square.
- many of the victims were Ukrainian patriots.
- Nor has he said that many of those who were involved in causing the blaze were Russian citizens or those who came from the Russia-occupied parts of Moldova (from Transnistria).
People really need to do their own research or at least read the Court’s decision.
Dumskaya, local newspaper of Odesa, speaks Russian, they actually did very good investigation about the 2-May invents, and reported all about it (many hundreds of A4 pages) already in 2014-2015. Read them at least.
I appreciate your comment and at some point I would like to take some time to dive into it a little bit more but how does any of that justify the way that he treated his fellow Ukrainians? Does that justify him dragging an unwilling man to go to war? Filming him tying that man to a tree and abusing him?
You have focused on 2014 which I'll admit is open to debate - which is why I left it open.
How does that change the fact that he is (was) a right-wing Banderite nationalist thug?
What about his actions in the past three years? The many videos of him abusing men on the streets and dragging them to be conscripted which is neither his job or his right. Beating them, there's plenty of evidence - I've included it.
I am not a Russian 'bot' I just see this man for what he is. I also am just one person so maybe you have different or more information than I do and that fine, but don't come into my publication trying to shut down discussion just because you don't like what you see.
As I said, I will gladly and enthusiastically discuss anything with you in good faith but not if you come in here throwing around accusations of 'Russian bot' like a 20 year old on Reddit who wants to shut down dissenting opinion.
I will go back and read the European Court of Human Rights verdict in full and I will include the link in my article.
But in my opinion it does not change the fact that this man deserved what he got. If you went to the Odessa Telegram groups then everybody was celebrating because they hated him.
I don't block you in any way, I can't. So when you say, "trying to shut down the discussion," you just make a lie. You post, people read or don't what you write. My comments don't have any impact on that process at all.
I and my fellow Russians are shut down from most free media because of the total censorship in Russia. We must hide that we buy (spend money) and install VPN to have access to youtube, FaceBook, even to Twitter -- that is a real shutdown, not my critique of your false narratives about the 2 May events, which are to a 'big surprise" mostly coherent with what is generated and spread from the Kremlin troll farms.
Besides those narratives and your misstatement of 2 May facts, you use the key words that associate you with the Moscow propaganda: "Banderite", "Odessa Massacre", "Odessa", "Nationalist". Most important is that your writing shows clearly that you have no clue about:
- the city of Odesa, which is a cultural and historical phenomenon of Eastern Europe and the Black Sea;
- the 2 May 2014 events, and just repeat the false narratives and lies generated in Moscow.
Had you known something about Odesa, if you just lived there on your own, on your own funding, just for one year, you would never even attempt to spread those narratives you spread not about Ukraine, Odesa, and the Russian war in general.
Overall, your article is titled "Ukrainian nationalist enforcer, Demyan Ganul, shot dead in the street days after damning ECHR ruling on Odessa Massacre." Thus you've connected the ECHR's judgement and his assassination, making it sound like he was killed for what you called falsely claimed "Odessa Massacre".
Now for some reason you are dragging things that are not relevant to the 2 May events and the Court's ruling in to your article and the discussion of it. Demyan may be an awful man, he might have been a criminal, etc. -- none of it is relevant to the 2 May events and the court ruling.
I know why you have done it, it's too explicit, -- it is related to his assassination and the Court's ruling, but that is something to comment separately. Here we just must state the facts:
- He was not a "enforcer", He was just an ordinary activist with good communication skills in 2014. He was just one of many.
- He is not a nationalist (you surely wanted to write "Nazi"). He is just a patriot of Ukraine and of Odesa. Proud Boys and Oath Keepers are nationalists. Compared to them, or to AfD or to Nigel Farage, he was a leftist.
- He is not "Banderite nationalist" - it's just ridiculous, like calling American patriots with George Washington pictures "Washingtonites".
- It's not "Odessa Massacre", it is most likely negligence, read the Dumskaya's investigation and the court judgement.
In my country and language, those guys are called Nazis not Nationalist. And they need to disappear from the face of the earth!
Every Nazi killed makes the day better.
Banderite might be a good one
You are a Russophobic NAzi-bolshevik yourself.
Glad he’s gone - the man was a nasty, aggressive bully as well as being a vile hypocrite.
The only good Banderite Nazi is a dead one🍻
On May 2, 2014, clashes erupted in Odessa between Ukrainian nationalists, who supported the armed coup in Kiev that had occurred several weeks before, and those who opposed it. The pro-Maidan activists attacked a tent where local residents were gathering signatures for a referendum on the federalization of Ukraine and recognition of Russian as a state language.
Outnumbered by the far-right radicals, the anti-coup activists took refuge inside the city’s trade union building. However, the nationalists surrounded the building, lobbed Molotov cocktails at it and eventually set it on fire, resulting in 48 deaths and over 200 people injured.
Judgment Vyacheslavova and Others v. Ukraine - State negligence in clashes between Maidan supporters and opponents in Odesa in May 2014
https://www.echr.coe.int/w/judgment-concerning-ukraine-2
I gather (from Military Summary) that he was killed by the father of a young man whom he had beaten up and forcibly recruited to the army. The father - wounded 13 times in the service of Ukraine, thus no lover of Russia - had been promised that his family would be unmolested in return for his service. Presumably Ganul did not know of that arrangement, but he still acted unconscionably. Quite apart from his role in the Odessa massacre.
Declan is intentionally misleading readers in his post. Anyone who studied the matter can see it. It ranges from the spelling (it should be “Odesa” not the Russian spelling “Odessa”) to the skipping of the facts and determinations made by the Court.
Declan for any reason does not give the link to the Judgment of the Court, which establish a lot more facts surrounding the blaze in Odesa on the days before and after the blaze (read here: https://hudoc.echr.coe.int/eng#{%22itemid%22:[%22001-242505%22]} The Court ruled that Ukrainian authorities failed to prevent violence, stop it in time, or ensure effective rescue operations. The investigation into the events was deemed ineffective, suffering from delays and lack of independence. The ruling highlighted the broader context of Russia's involvement in Crimea and eastern Ukraine.
Declan had qualified it “Odessa Massacre” for no reason. Massacre an indiscriminate intentional slaughter of many people. The ECHR did not determine that the fire in the Odesa Trade Union Building on 2 May 2014 was set with the deliberate intention to massacre or systematically kill the victims. Instead, the Court focused on Odesian officials and officers’ failure to prevent and stop the violence, ensure timely rescue measures, and conduct an effective investigation into the events.
The judgment notes that both pro-Maidan and anti-Maidan activists used Molotov cocktails, with fires originating inside and outside the building. The Ukrainian authorities’ failure to intervene effectively contributed to the fatalities, but the Court did not establish a finding of premeditated mass murder.
Declan forgets to mention that most of the Ukrainian law enforcement and other agencies in Odesa responsible for making sure no such trouble happen, worked for Moscow and mostly fled to Russia already in May 2014.
Demyan was not an “enforcer”, he was just an activist, just one of patriots of Ukraine (I know that anyone who in Ukraine, in Belarus, in Moldova, in the Baltics calls himself a Patriot, Moscow and Kremlin propaganda outlets call them “Nazis”).
Declan forgets to mention such facts as “at 4.10 p.m. the first victim, Mr. Ivanov [Russian surname], a pro-unity (pro-Ukraine) activist, sustained a firearm injury to the abdomen. He was taken to hospital by an ambulance but died during surgery”, or that The Court noted that many of those who took refuge in the Trade Union Building were anti-Maidan (pro-Russian) activists. It also recognised that some of the pro-Unity protesters attempted to help those trapped inside, while others engaged in violence.
Declan has said that out of the 48 people who died “mostly were Ukrainians who leaned towards Russia”, but he intentionally forgot to mention that:
- 42 individuals perishing in the Trade Unions House fire and six others killed earlier that day during clashes in Hretska Square.
- many of the victims were Ukrainian patriots.
- Nor has he said that many of those who were involved in causing the blaze were Russian citizens or those who came from the Russia-occupied parts of Moldova (from Transnistria).
People really need to do their own research or at least read the Court’s decision.
Here is Demyan’s interview to a local Odesian newspaper, Dumaskaya: https://youtu.be/KnvE7FEQH24?si=-GFAYJnAJSDKMFnq
Dumskaya speaks Russian, they actually did very good investigation about the 2-May invents, and reported all about it (many hundreds of A4 pages) already in 2014-2015.
Never heard of the cove, but he sounds like an utter douchebag. He wasn’t a Nazi?
Looks like he had a very predictable end. Such a violent country it must be so awful for the average person living there. Just trying to lead a normal life.
John, are you even paid from taxes we pay in Russia for eating such nonsense and spreading lies? You have never been to either Ukraine, nor Russia but making some conclusions from reading someone who is professionally making and spreading lies and fakes.
Declan is intentionally misleading the readers in his post. Anyone who studied the matter knows it. It ranges from the spelling (it should be “Odesa” not the Russian spelling “Odessa”) to the skipping of the facts and determinations made by the Court.
Declan for any does not give the link to the Judgment of the Court, which establish a lot more facts surrounding the blaze in Odesa on the days before and after the blaze (read here: https://hudoc.echr.coe.int/eng#{%22itemid%22:[%22001-242505%22]} The Court ruled that Ukrainian authorities failed to prevent violence, stop it in time, or ensure effective rescue operations. The investigation into the events was deemed ineffective, suffering from delays and lack of independence. The ruling highlighted the broader context of Russia's involvement in Crimea and eastern Ukraine.
Declan had qualified it “Odessa Massacre” for no reason. Massacre an indiscriminate intentional slaughter of many people. The ECHR did not determine that the fire in the Odesa Trade Union Building on 2 May 2014 was set with the deliberate intention to massacre or systematically kill the victims. Instead, the Court focused on Odesian officials and officers’ failure to prevent and stop the violence, ensure timely rescue measures, and conduct an effective investigation into the events.
The judgment notes that both pro-Maidan and anti-Maidan activists used Molotov cocktails, with fires originating inside and outside the building. The Ukrainian authorities’ failure to intervene effectively contributed to the fatalities, but the Court did not establish a finding of premeditated mass murder.
Declan forgets to mention that most of the Ukrainian law enforcement and other agencies in Odesa responsible for making sure no such trouble happen, worked for Moscow and mostly fled to Russia already in May 2014.
Demyan was not an “enforcer”, he was just an activist, just one of patriots of Ukraine (I know that anyone who in Ukraine, in Belarus, in Moldova, in the Baltics calls himself a Patriot, Moscow and Kremlin propaganda outlets call them “Nazis”).
Declan forgets to mention such facts as “at 4.10 p.m. the first victim, Mr. Ivanov [Russian surname], a pro-unity (pro-Ukraine) activist, sustained a firearm injury to the abdomen. He was taken to hospital by an ambulance but died during surgery”, or that The Court noted that many of those who took refuge in the Trade Union Building were anti-Maidan (pro-Russian) activists. It also recognised that some of the pro-Unity protesters attempted to help those trapped inside, while others engaged in violence.
Declan has said that out of the 48 people who died “mostly were Ukrainians who leaned towards Russia”. But he has not said how many of those “mostly”. that several of the victims were Ukrainian patriots. Nor has he said that many of those who were involved in causing the blaze were Russian citizens or those who came from the Russia-occupied parts of Moldova (from Transnistria).
People really need to do their own research or at least read the Court’s decision.
Dumskaya, local newspaper of Odesa, speaks Russian, they actually did very good investigation about the 2-May invents, and reported all about it (many hundreds of A4 pages) already in 2014-2015. Read them at least.
31. So young to be so dark.
I imagine he'd been at it since well before 2014 too.
Declan is intentionally misleading the readers in his post. Anyone who studied the matter knows it. It ranges from the spelling (it should be “Odesa” not the Russian spelling “Odessa”) to the skipping of the facts and determinations made by the Court.
Declan for any does not give the link to the Judgment of the Court, which establish a lot more facts surrounding the blaze in Odesa on the days before and after the blaze (read here: https://hudoc.echr.coe.int/eng#{%22itemid%22:[%22001-242505%22]} The Court ruled that Ukrainian authorities failed to prevent violence, stop it in time, or ensure effective rescue operations. The investigation into the events was deemed ineffective, suffering from delays and lack of independence. The ruling highlighted the broader context of Russia's involvement in Crimea and eastern Ukraine.
Declan had qualified it “Odessa Massacre” for no reason. Massacre an indiscriminate intentional slaughter of many people. The ECHR did not determine that the fire in the Odesa Trade Union Building on 2 May 2014 was set with the deliberate intention to massacre or systematically kill the victims. Instead, the Court focused on Odesian officials and officers’ failure to prevent and stop the violence, ensure timely rescue measures, and conduct an effective investigation into the events.
The judgment notes that both pro-Maidan and anti-Maidan activists used Molotov cocktails, with fires originating inside and outside the building. The Ukrainian authorities’ failure to intervene effectively contributed to the fatalities, but the Court did not establish a finding of premeditated mass murder.
Declan forgets to mention that most of the Ukrainian law enforcement and other agencies in Odesa responsible for making sure no such trouble happen, worked for Moscow and mostly fled to Russia already in May 2014.
Demyan was not an “enforcer”, he was just an activist, just one of patriots of Ukraine (I know that anyone who in Ukraine, in Belarus, in Moldova, in the Baltics calls himself a Patriot, Moscow and Kremlin propaganda outlets call them “Nazis”).
Declan forgets to mention such facts as “at 4.10 p.m. the first victim, Mr. Ivanov [Russian surname], a pro-unity (pro-Ukraine) activist, sustained a firearm injury to the abdomen. He was taken to hospital by an ambulance but died during surgery”, or that The Court noted that many of those who took refuge in the Trade Union Building were anti-Maidan (pro-Russian) activists. It also recognised that some of the pro-Unity protesters attempted to help those trapped inside, while others engaged in violence.
Declan has said that out of the 48 people who died “mostly were Ukrainians who leaned towards Russia”, but he intentionally forgot to mention that:
- 42 individuals perishing in the Trade Unions House fire and six others killed earlier that day during clashes in Hretska Square.
- many of the victims were Ukrainian patriots.
- Nor has he said that many of those who were involved in causing the blaze were Russian citizens or those who came from the Russia-occupied parts of Moldova (from Transnistria).
People really need to do their own research or at least read the Court’s decision.
Here is Demyan’s interview to a local Odesian newspaper, Dumaskaya: https://youtu.be/KnvE7FEQH24?si=-GFAYJnAJSDKMFnq
Dumskaya speaks Russian, they actually did very good investigation about the 2-May invents, and reported all about it (many hundreds of A4 pages) already in 2014-2015.
What a scumbag
I’m sure Putin loves how you tell the “truth”.. 😂
Live by the sword die by the sword
Sounds like he won't be having a good time on his next stop
Good riddance! I had enough of these Nazi Ukrainians and Nazi Israelis.
Couldn't have happened to a nicer arsehole.
Good another less of them…