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Adam Cheklat's avatar

If Trump styles himself an emperor, then consider me a modern Liu Bang. He was the first emperor of the Han Dynasty.

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Kojo's avatar

Do we really need to tag this to any individual?

Havent some of the Northern European countries hae been exporting prisoners like this for a while now? Here is Norway for example in 2014:

https://www.nrk.no/norge/nederlandsk-fengsel-klart-for-norske-fanger-1.12061022

https://www.nettavisen.no/nyheter/innenriks/na-er-det-slutt-for-det-norske-fengselet-i-nederland/s/12-95-3423532011

And the UK is no stranger to the concept either:

https://apnews.com/article/uk-rwanda-migrants-parliament-c9f6f7cef29b7d7655f7c4f0bab7a94f

And why wasnt it called "fascism" while Bush II, Obama and Biden all were running global kidnapping-and-torture programs, and operating a gulag at Guantanamo bay? Did any European government protest this? Or am I hallucinating when I remember the name "Jack Straw" in connection with such matters:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/libyan-rebel-leader-abdul-hakim-belhaj-supreme-court-wins-right-sue-jack-straw-torture-mi6-cia-operation-extraordinary-rendition-a7530996.html

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-38649683

https://www.freedomfromtorture.org/news-and-stories/libyan-torture-survivor-wins-right-to-sue-jack-straw-for-complicity-in-his-torture

There are deep rooted and longstanding problems. Blaming orange one gets attention and clicks, but its not the right approach if you want to understand or fix the issues.

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Elizabeth's avatar

That makes sense

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Elizabeth's avatar

You’re right about that but it’s time to sound the alarm. Better late than never.

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Kojo's avatar

Sound the alarm ASAP. But anytime we sound the alarm and we feel the need to preface it by blaming a cartoon figure, well that's bordering on disinformation. Because this problem - extensive fascist behavior while decrying fascism - is endemic to the neoliberal so called "west". If the orange one leaves office, well the problem preceeded him, and will outlast him if you blame him as the "cause".

If you want to fix the problem. Call out the correct diagnosis.

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